Staedtler
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So the FTR ecu does adapt? Now I’m confused. When I suggested it did adapt and drew a parallel to the gearbox in my car, I got a “But no”.
2022 love it but surging!
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Its disappointing to hear that this has not been sorted for the new bike when it was claimed it was...My 19 has all the issues that I'd expected it to have apart from some additional niceties like stalling/cutting out when changing gears...a little burp surge when changing down causing it to briefly accelerate when braking and the usual cutting out while warming up, surging and rough running...I'm in the UK and have made contact with Indian, Polaris tech support in Warwickshire, the seller and local Indian dealer and also spoken with a UK regulatory body. If anyone has some of the more serious issues has anyone managed to get a good fix from a dealer or what support did you get for an external tune or fix..
I still love the bike...I would just like a little more of the simple things in life like starting and running
I still love the bike...I would just like a little more of the simple things in life like starting and running
Max Kool
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It adapts yes (trim tables) to correct for temperature, barometric pressure, and even for worn or dirty injectors. It does NOT learn how you ride.
Staedtler
Active member
I wasn't implying that, merely that it would take more than 100miles, but anyway.
Update. Spoke with Indian rep before I brought it in for the 500 mile service. Told him i was still having same issue... He said they have a new calibration that will hopefully fix it.
Got service done and apparently they updated the ecu. Unfortunately I'm still having the same problem. Around 3500 RPM specifically it will not hold a good steady throttle. It'll lightly rock back and forth. It's especially noticeable with cruise on. And sometimes it does it in other RPM ranges...
The new calibration did seem to give me a noticeable power upgrade according to my butt dyno, but it hasn't solved the initial problem. The bike is just not enjoyable to ride at a constant speed at some rpms... I feel like it's a throttle position sensor issue or an issue with the computer reading it. I dunno.
Indian tech guy has been great and checking up, I missed his call and will need to call him back again today. But this is quite disappointing after spending 15k on a bike.
Will update again soon.
Got service done and apparently they updated the ecu. Unfortunately I'm still having the same problem. Around 3500 RPM specifically it will not hold a good steady throttle. It'll lightly rock back and forth. It's especially noticeable with cruise on. And sometimes it does it in other RPM ranges...
The new calibration did seem to give me a noticeable power upgrade according to my butt dyno, but it hasn't solved the initial problem. The bike is just not enjoyable to ride at a constant speed at some rpms... I feel like it's a throttle position sensor issue or an issue with the computer reading it. I dunno.
Indian tech guy has been great and checking up, I missed his call and will need to call him back again today. But this is quite disappointing after spending 15k on a bike.
Will update again soon.
No, only dealer thanks had one was over an hour away. Haven't tried another.
FTRRCv2
Member
Why are you trying to ride at such a low rpm? This is a performance tuned engine, downshift a gear and it will be fine. It’s not a cruiser. Mine is less stable around that range as well, it acts just like my Ducati did, it also didn’t like to be below 4K. I did notice it more when cold. I will make more notes of when it happens once I get it back from service, I have 600miles on it currently.
Yeah considering the bike started to reach peak tq around 4-4500. 3500 isn’t lugging
FTRRCv2
Member
That seems really odd that’s it’s different in different gears.
Well I'm shifting per Indians own recommendations in their manual. 3,500rpm should not be a problem on a 2022 15k bike.... and if I'm going 75mph and set the cruise I expect a smooth ride, not for it to rock me to sleep.
edgelett
Well-known member
if you're riding through twisties, particularly very tight corners, it's not unusual to be sitting between 3000-4000 rpm frequently.
Being you’re the 17in wheel. The 45t sprocket is almost the same ratio as a the 49t sprocket with the 18in wheel.
but im running a 45t with the 18in wheel and still Experience no issues.
a good tune fixes all things
I've noticed the cruise is super sensitive to any bumps in the road. And I mean ANY bumps in the road.
Anything other than smooth pavement, and the cruise will cut out and come back on its own, which makes the bike fall on its face then race back to life.
Might describe why it feels worse with cruise on.
Mine is a 2022 also.
I'm glad I told the Polaris Customer Disservice rep "No thanks" when he suggested I take it back to my local techs to see if they could get me the latest super secret map. I'm pretty sure it would have been the map used on the 22s and wouldn't have done anything to fix the issues.
Hopefully Lloyds will have a flash for the 22s soon.
Hopefully Lloyds will have a flash for the 22s soon.
FTRRCv2
Member
Yes, mine does that on a stretch of road that the seams are rough. This is the first bike that has not kicked off and stayed off. I wonder if turning of traction control would fix that?